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I have uploaded the Nava Graha Strota at

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/navanew.pdf

It contains the mantras for all the planets. You can choose the required shloka(verse). The meanings are given in English. Also for those of you who find difficult to read Sanskrit, there is a good website which has the same mantra’s in english transliteration, along with the meanings and instructions on how to chant. Also this site has audio clips of all the mantra’s so that you can listen to the exact pronunciation.

http://www.jamesbraha.com/mantras.html

For the remedy Sade-Satti, here is an extract of some of the remedial methods from Prashar Software.

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/ss.jpg

Also remember one method that helps to alleviate from the ill affects of Shani is regularly reading of Sri Hanuman Chalisa.

[vitiligoindian]

VV this means that mercury is afflicted. Again i dont think Shani is bad for yr son, but rahu, ketu and jupiter are causing harm.(The position of mercury, rahu and ketu of yr son’s chart are quite similar to vineets chart)

Regarding the navamsha chart, you can think of it as a secondary chart. So if a planet is in a bad position in the main chart but in good position in navamsha its ill effects are reduced, similarly a bad planet in both the charts means its definitely bad, also a planet in a good position in the main chart and in a bad position in navamsha will give reduce benefits. In your son’s navamsha chart mercury is in the enemy 8th house, which weakens it further.

The period that you mentioned feb-april- 2003, he was under the period of jupiter-rahu-saturn. So i would suggest that he first wear a emerald, like i recommended for swinzle. If you find emerald helpful he can then wear a small diamond too. Also please do chanting and puja of rahu, ketu and jupiter.

If you want the mantra’s and other details regarding remedy of sade-satti, i can upload that.

A note on sade-satti.
In the first 2.5 years – shani affects yr upper part..ie. brains and causes mental tensions.
Next 2.5 years- shani affects the middle part..ie…chest, stomach, liver etc.
The last 2.5 years shani troubles legs and feet. But, remember, in this part, it tends to rectify all the reversible damages it had caused during the first two periods.

[vitiligoindian]

Rashmi take yr time.

Van the software is Parashara 2000, a common astrology software. Regarding swinzle’s stone, buy an emarald according to her weight. Say if she weights 40kgs, then buy a 4 carat emerald.One carat =0.2 gms. The stone should be set in a gold ring/pendant and make sure that the stone touches the skin while wearing(This type of ring/pendant is called a touching ring/pendant). Its worn on wednesdays in the little(pinkie) finger. I’ll tell you the mantra/date etc. also when u are ready with the thing.

Im wearing a pearl(moti) in my little finger, although its not got anything to do with vitiligo as my remedy for vitiligo is doing puja, chanting etc. But pearl has otherwise helped a lot in making me mentally stronger.

Vineet I saw yr horoscope, Mercury is in the first house. Remember in an horoscope one planet can only be in one house. Among all the horoscopes seen till now, yrs one seems to be the most positive. Yr Mecury is in its own house and is even exalted. Its not affected by Shani. Yr Jupiter is only a bit troublesome.
1. The only problem is merury is in conjunction with Rahu and aspected by Ketu.
2. In navamsha mercury is in enemy+ bad(12th) house.
3. And also the Mahadasha of Rahu is going on for you.

Now what you should do is to do some chanting of mantra’s of Rahu and Ketu that should be beneficial for you.
Yr chart’s here :

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/vineet1.jpg

-Rajan

[vitiligoindian]

Savvy u can mail the details, but give me a breather before i interpret it. I primarily use Parashar 2000 and also Kundli-pro for cross checking.

W regarding yr sons chart, again Mercury, although in a good house:
1. Is in conjuction with ‘Rahu’, and aspected by evil planets ‘Ketu’ and ‘Mars’.
2. Also in Navamsha kundli mercury is in ‘enemy’ and 8th(bad) house.

His files are at

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/vv1.jpg

and

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/vv2.jpg

But I dont think Saturn(shani) is bad for your son. His first sade-satti started on 6-6-2000, did he get vitiligo on or after that period? In may case i got vitiligo as my first sade-satti started, but in my chart Shani is bad for me and is also aspecting Mercury. Both these conditions are not present in yr son’s chart.

Also talking about patterns emerging, i recently read that some(a minority) of the astrologers feel that a bad Jupiter causes vitiligo. Actually Jupiter is the karaka(controller) of fatness in the skin as compared to Mercury which is responsible for the skin itself. But in all the three(mine, swinzle’s and your son) horoscopes Jupiter was either debliated or in an enemy house.

So at present its difficult to exactly tell who the real culprit is, may be that both mercury and jupiter are together responsible. We should find out as we come across more charts.

[vitiligoindian]

Well the change in time doesnt change the basic chart at all, but makes a slight change in the shadbal, it makes her mercury a stronger by 0.1 points(which is good for her). Otherwise its the same.

PS. Im not good in astrology, its just that i have a good piece of software with me.

[vitiligoindian]

Rasmi u can mail me yr details, otherwise also u owe me a mail.

Van coming to Swinzle’s horoscope, i had made the chart and put up two files on tripod, first u can see her general interpretation here:

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/swinzle2.jpg

If you find most of these correct, then you can see her chart here

http://vitiligofiles.tripod.com/swinzle1.jpg

Now there are some things noteworthy here. I have circled them and marked them

1. Mercury in and in conjunction with ‘enemy’ Saturns house.
2. Mercury having the weakest ‘shad-bal’ (1.1)
3. Mercury also debliated and in conjunction with ‘enemy planets’ in the 8th(bad house), in navamsha kundli.

Also mercury’s own houses 2nd and 5th (with numbers 3 and 6) are occupied by its enemy planets ‘Mars’ and ‘Jupiter’.

So in my humble opinion, all these factors have led to swinzle’s vitiligo. Now the remedy, it involves making mercury stronger(since mercury is otherwise beneficial for her, but is stuck up in the wrong place). I would suggest you make her wear an green emerald(hara panna) stone, either in a ring or as a pendant. The other details, weight of the stone and the procedure of wearing i can let u know if you want to try this out.

[vitiligoindian]

Well i was thinking of starting this topic. I have been going thru some books of astrology during the last few months and also getting information from some renowed astrologers. Although astrology is a complicated subject, still there is a broad consensus among all sources regarding the occurance of vitiligo. I will try to explain in brief:-

In a person’s horoscope(kundli) the planet Mercury(Buddha) is the ‘karaka'(governer) if the sense organ skin. So if in a horoscope mercury is either placed in the 6th, 8th, 11th or 12th ‘houses'(these are the bad houses), or mercury is debliated, or mercury is afflicted or in conjunction with malefic planets, that results in skin deseases.
On the other hand if mercury is exalted or in ‘good houses’ or looked upon and in conjunction with benefic planents, the person is blessed with a glowing and healthy skin.

This information made me study my own horoscope and indeed mercury in my horoscope is placed in the 8th house and is afflicted by saturn(shani), rahu and ketu.

You might be also correct in mentioning saade satti, because when my vitiligo started it was during the peroid of my first sade satti. But in my case it might be due to the fact that the planet mercury is affliced by saturn. In other cases, if mercury is affliced by some other malefic planet, the problem might occur during the dasha(period) of that planet.

(FYI Sade satti is the period when for 7.5(2.5 X 3) years, the planet saturn passes over your moonsign house)(I have an astrolgy software that tells the period of one’s sade satti accordinng to the horoscope)

Coming to the remedy according to astrology. The remedy involves doing puja(by chanting mantras) of mercury and also the planets afflicting mercury, it also involves giving ‘daan'(charity) of certain objects on certain days, and fasting on certain days. Wearing certain gem stones also helps.

I have a list of mantras for all the planets, and also there is a set of mantras to be chanted to reduce the ill effects of sade satti, but they are useful during the sadde satti period. There is also one ‘nav graha’ stotra, which has mantra’s for all the nine planets and which can be chanted by all.

If someone is wondering as to how mantras are beneficial. The answer is that mantras contain ‘stuti'(small prayer) for the concerned planet, so by chanting the mantra one is pleasing the planet which is causing trouble. Imagine a situation like this: A very cruel and powerful person catches hold of you and is about to bash you real hard, and you have no remedy except to stand in front of him with folded hands and praise him and beg to be let free, so your prayer pleases him and he lets you go. Mantra’s work in this way.

Now comes one tricky part, if you go to an astrologer, he or she will tell you about the puja etc., and will also tell you that this puja is to be performed by qualified Brahmins and will involve an expense of a certain sum of money. You are free to follow his advice and perform the puja for yr benefit. But in my opinion someone else chanting the mantras for you is just like someone else eating for you. Im skeptical about the benefit of puja done by someone else, accruing to you. So in my advice its better to chant the mantras yourself and give all charity etc by yr own hands.

I am myself thinking of starting to chant, but somehow time is a big problem. Finally i was wondering if some of the members of this discussion group tell me their date, time and place of birth, so that i can see their horoscope and confirm if indeed they have a problem in the planet mercury, and does sade satti have any related influence.

[vitiligoindian]

English->Hindi Dictionary
Molasses=Khand

Hindi->English Dictionary
Khand=Unrefined sugar obtained by boiling down and drying the residue of sugar
cane juice.

[vitiligoindian]

Is it called ‘khand’, im not sure, so u can crosscheck.

[vitiligoindian]

Hey Vineet,

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sun and tacroz helped a lot.
now it is under control and i am gaining back my pigment.
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Is tacroz able to repigment yr hairless patches too?

[vitiligoindian]

Congrats Vineet All the best to you!!!

Even I believe neem might be helpful. FYI Van, i dunno whether you are aware of this, today i saw ‘Liv-52 DS’, tablets…the chemist told me they are Liver-52 double strength. I guess they would be ideal for people like us.

[vitiligoindian]

Himalaya’s ‘Neem’, ‘Karela’ and ‘Tulsi’ tablets are supposed to be quite effective. Has anyone tried them?

[vitiligoindian]

Today is just the 3rd day of this garlic juice experiment. I would be very very surprised if this works. I just tried it because, may be, this seems the easiest thing to do.

I have activated my ‘allow email’ preference. Also my email address is [email protected].

[vitiligoindian]

Very True Van!

Coming to yr question(s) Rasmi.
Iam not aware of any garlic juice available in market. Though Dabur does offer a garlic+ginger paste.
My mother who does this for me: Peel the shell of a garlic, to get the inner light yellow part. Then grate the same and squeeze the small grated pieces(with yr hands) to extract the juice.

BTW i dont eat garlic or onions, i just hate their pungent smell. But I have to bear it now, yes some spots did turn red, but it seemed more of an allergic reaction. Lets see what happens.

[vitiligoindian]

Yes Van, it was hard real hard for me, those four years was the worst period in my life. There were other things happening too, so it affected by career and the future life to a great extent.
We’ll the drugs name was ENDOXAN-ASTA(cyclophosphamide). Its an anti-cancer drug used in leukaemia etc., I guess he prescribed it to me because one of its ‘side-affects’ is skin pigmentation.
May be he was experimenting with this one, using me as a guinea pig. But since i came to know about the real use of this one, before i popped in the first pill, i said goodbye to this kindda treatment. This tablet has a lot of side affects and a lot of precautions associated with it.

I was on maintenance treatment for a long time, but the spots eventually do come back.

Rasmi, yes my vitiligo pattern is similar to yrs, but now i have it appearing on my left hand and thats really embarrassing. Did u get the shehnaz hussains’s coverup cream?

BTW Folks yesterday i started to apply garlic juice, it was a bit itchy and sticky. Lets see what happens.

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